Yahoo shocked the world last week by hiring Mayer away from Google.
There’s a lot of interesting tidbits in this thread, most notably the one about how her getting pregnant is an admission she’s “done,” but I found this one most interesting.
Re: sour grapes
Your comment is one of the reasons– not the only one and certainly not the most important one, but one of them– that problems in the industry don’t get better. If people who understand a situation and can explain it can’t speak candidly, things aren’t likely to improve.
The following are a few of the laws of the jungle out there:
1. Women are considered second-class intellects until they prove otherwise..
2. The mroe attractive a women is, the less intelligent she is assumed to be. The more time she seems to devote to her appearance, the less ‘serious about business’ she is assumed to be.
3. Point two not withstanding, if she’s overweight, unattractive or poorly-groomed, she’s assumed to be inept. “How can she manage a business if she can’t even manage the size of her ass?”
4. Until a woman busts somebody’s balls, she’s a pushover. After she does, she’s a bitch.
5. Most of the men out there hate or fear women. They like to make crude jokes about them to express their hostility. Because they’ve learned that other women object to those things, they don’t like women around,
6. Women get the worst workloads, the longest odds, the smallest rewards and the least credit. If a women gets results, people will assume she did at least some of the work on either her back or her knees.
7. It’s assumed that putting two women on a project is a recipe for a nightmare. Either they’ll band together against the men– always taking the other one’s side, no matter how badly one just screwed the pooch– or they’ll spend the whole project in a catfight, pressing the men to choose a side.
8. They’re considered a pain to work with because they want to talk more than they want to do and they focus on how things look or feel rather than how things are (aka “the bottom line”).
9. You can’t tell a women the truth, because she’ll cry or file a complaint if what you tell her makes her feel icky. Doesn’t matter how accurate it is or how well-intentioned your motives are.
10, If a woman doesn’t have a baby, people assume it’s only a matter of time until she has one. After she does, it’s proof she isn’t serious about her career
For these and other reasons, I now choose to live and work 1,300 miles away. If I ever find myself thirsty for this sort of atmosphere, I can drive 20 minuets to the bars surrounding the local auto plants and steel mills.
I’d consider what I’ve just written to be cultural anthropology… but if you want to consider it sexism from a drooling neanderthal, that’s up to you. Truth be told, I find it amusing when people who’ve never met Larry Ellison, senior parrtners at KPCB or any tech exec who grew up in the Middle East or Asia tell me that I’m hostile to women.
Yahoo is a dying company. It doesn’t have Ebola or liver cancer– more like Alzheimers or melanoma– but it will not live. Jesus H. Christ couldn’t fix what’s wrong there, even if he could get all 12 of his apostles appointed to the board,
It’s the kind of job– high-profile company that used to be a big player– that people living in Cleveland think is a step up. People who evaluate opportunities based on the probability of succeeding would shun it. It’s a career sinkhole of the sort that hasn’t seen since Sun Microsystems.
(HP is another one. As is Sony. Microsoft is sprinting in that direction, Facebook could get there in a hurry and even Google is beginning to smell funny.)
Yes, Scott Thompson is better off with ShopRunner. Silly as the business model is, his new co-workers probably want the company to succeed more than they want to protect their turf or settle grudges that date back to the 90’s. That is not a statement that Mayer will be able to make.
As for whether Mayer would have been better off staying with Google, it depends on whether you prefer:
- Collecting a paycheck and watching people who aren’t nearly as competent pass you by on the promotion ladder,
- Taking a less glamourous job where you can get things done, or
- Riding a dinosaur that your grandmother has heard of into the boneyard.
I took option “B”, but chacun a son gout. The Good Lord made each of us a little different.